Posts by Mad Sweeney

I call bullshit. JWs do nothing BUT bitch bitch bitch about the Christmas music and crowds during the holiday shopping season. "I can't wait until these holidays are over!" (some of them can't bring themselves to say the word "Christmas") "I hope this is the last Christmas we have to live through in this system!" "Satan's really busy isn't he? They started playing the Christmas music SO EARLY this year!"

Tell me you never heard Dubs saying stuff like that!

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Do your elders care at all?

by Mr. Falcon in

i currently have an elder body who, for the most part, seems utterly complacent and disinterested in actually "shepherding" anything.

i can't tell if they are lazy or just oblivious to their responsiblities of being "teachers".

it seems like they are the last to know anything and always procrastinate on everything.

Mad Sweeney

Most of the ones I know want to care but just don't have the energy. They're too busy caring for Watchtower-imposed duties to care for actual people.

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Jw comments on the Huffington Post

by The Quiet One in

"anyone who actually knows the real reason for the personal visits to our neighbor's homes, knows it to be based on love.

love in imitation of that which jesus had in his own ministry.

the same one he taught his disciples to follow.

Mad Sweeney

I got through and have made several responses. Only on the most recent couple pages, though.

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Dr Laura Schlesinger Rant

by Iconoclast in

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i don't know if this is accurate or not.

it's on of those fb chain letter thingys but it's awesome and i'd thought i would share:.

in her radio show, dr laura schlesinger said that, as an observant orthodox jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance.

Mad Sweeney

Hilarious! Demented and sad, but hilarious.

BTW, some of our Canadian friends slave pretty hard to keep this site running. Thanks y'all! Consider yourselves owned based on God's inspired Word.

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Jw comments on the Huffington Post

by The Quiet One in

"anyone who actually knows the real reason for the personal visits to our neighbor's homes, knows it to be based on love.

love in imitation of that which jesus had in his own ministry.

the same one he taught his disciples to follow.

Mad Sweeney

I can't get logged in to make comments. AAARRRGGH!

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Help me to answer a few questions for a current JW?

by stillstuckcruz in

i'm talking to this girl right now who is technically still a witness.

she doenst go to the meetings anymore but not because she does not feel its the truth.

her parents are no longer witnesses and i want to get her to see the truth about the "truth" before she decides to go back in.

Mad Sweeney

Jehovah want's people to gain accurate knowlege right? So where do they gain this knowledge if they are not JW's?

Assume she gets this from John 17:3. Read it to her and then read 2 Timothy 3:16,17. The knowledge is found in the Bible, not in an organization. If you want to spend some quality time with this discussion, read John chapter 14 together, especially verse 6 ("I am the way..."). Again, it is the Bible for information, Jesus for the Way, and no mention of organized religion. You can even bring out examples of Jesus and the prophets of the OT speaking out against the religious leaders, showing the Bible's clear opinion about organized religion.

Jehovah wants his people to be united right? So why should we not disfellowship those who have a difference of opinion? That only creates disuniuty! JW's are the only people who are entirely united on the Earth. Worldly churches can even agree on their own teachings.

This is one that you would be better off challenging the initial premise. Ask her where in the Bible does it say that God requires unity, and then go to those verses and read them in context. After reading them in context, discuss whether the use of the word "unity" implies strict conformity and everyone believing the exact same thing in every detail, or whether it simply means that all Christians should believe in Jesus and his sacrifice.

What other group do you know that goes preaching from door to door on the same scale as JW's? The bibe says to preach to every land(bla bla bla). Jehovahs Witnesses are the only group doing that on such a scale. this proves they are the truth.

Mormons. They do it even better than the JWs do, obviously, since they are more than twice the size of the JWs in approximately the same amount of time as an organization. Does this mean they have twice as much of Jehovah's blessing? Of course it doesn't. And again, challenge the premise: Why is door to door significant? Matthew 24:14 makes no mention of specific "door to door" preaching, and when Jesus taught his disciples how to conduct their ministry he specifically said not to be going "from house to house," but to preach everywhere and find a single house to stay in. (Luke 10:7) As for preaching in every land, most Christian denominations have missions all over the world and are quite successful - without going from house to house, too. Find some examples if you think they'll help.

Why are all the annointed ONLY in the JW religion? (I used to wonder the same thing until I did research)

Because "the anointed" as a group are an invention of the JW religion. Most of the billions of Christians on this planet feel they are destined to go to heaven. Only the hubris of the Watchtower has closed the door on all but 144,000 people. If you can get your hands on a purple Kingdom Interlinear NWT Bible and look at Revelation 7 together you can show her that the "great crowd" that is "before the throne" is in the SAME PLACE as a bunch of angels that are described as "before the throne" later in the chapter (the Greek word is identical). Also you can look at Revelation 19:1 that says the "great crowd" is in heaven.

Maybe there are different classes of people who go to heaven, but the invitation to go is open to ALL Christians. 1 Timothy 2:6 says Jesus was a ransom for ALL.

Even if you plant seeds that only germinate years into the future, you're doing a good thing. Good Luck, Cruz!

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Arguing with a Russellite

by Lunatic Faith in

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i posted a blog yesterday regarding some of the occult images used by the watchtower society.

i got an interesting response today from an apparent russellite.

i have never run into these people so i was surprised at his vehement defense of russell.

Mad Sweeney

Russell was wacky but not much more harmful than any other pastor who starts his own church.

Rutherford was downright evil.

As for doctrine, could someone clear up my understanding about who Russell believed got resurrected to where? I am thinking he taught that Christians who die all go to heaven, that 144K of them would rule as kings and priests and that the rest would just party as angels/spirits. The earthly resurrection was for those who lived before Christ and others who were non-Christian. Is that correct?

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Do you sense that the Watchtower will implode?

by AK - Jeff in

since leaving the organization 8 years ago, there have been more significant changes in the actual, physical activities of the organization than occurred in all the 40 plus years i was 'in'.

bethel closings.

bethel layoffs.

Mad Sweeney

Yan makes a good point about why most people don't leave. I've made a similar point before.

But people DO leave, even if it isn't a majority. Other people die. Recruitment isn't working well. And the Internet, as cedars says, is the Borg's nemesis.

The only thing that's keeping the numbers up is the fact that the Watchtower hasn't discouraged having kids like it used to, so there is a steady rate of born-ins becoming publishers every year. Sure, there are still occasional conversions from the field serve-us, but they're more and more rare.

We're winning. Slowly but surely.

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Post your favorite JW Non-words here!

by outsmartthesystem in

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the wt study was always my favorite meeting as i could sit back and soak up all the unintelligent comments made by high school dropout pioneers or home learned children.

my favorite is when i would hear people make up their own words.

misunderestimate.

Mad Sweeney

Nobody says "oldsters" except the Borg. Good call, punk.